i hate the defensiveness. this is my theory on what's happened to intel. they have adopted a customer is always right attitude, but it turns out the customer was wrong. they had the wrong form factor, the wrong device. there was a moment in the call where it took my breath away, where paul said, they're talking about the fablet. this is a great american company. i'm like, you know, i actually said, i feel bad. >> they might have the wrong customers. if they have pc makers -- >> i know apple -- i did think this call was -- it was -- i mean, it's literally, are you guys getting any bang for your $10 million in research and development in 2012? they got the israel one going 24 hours. >> and chipotle. >> i shop and i go to factories. >> i have to tell you, this was an intel that was -- we're not as bad as you think. we're not as bad -- no, guys, have some pride. you're great. >> it seems at this point, jim t is a show-me stock. >> oh, is it ever. >> was there any mention of who might replace ottolini? did you see that in the transcript of your call? >> no. >>